we hung out with boytoy

all photos by jade taylor

and talked ouija boards, scorpion bowls, and burger records.

Brooklyn-born bands may be a dime a dozen nowadays, but in the case of BOYTOY—a trio of weirdos named Saara, Glenn, and Matt—my attention was caught after first listen. BOYTOY is a total musical gem: The songs off their latest self-titled EP are catchy, fun, and addictive; floating somewhere between 60’s surf jams and 90’s grunge rock. Here, we chat with the band about their EP and upcoming record (among other things). Be sure to check out more BOYTOY photos below—and don't forget to pick up one of their super limited edition cassettes on Burger Records and vinyl on PaperCup Music!

How did BOYTOY start?

Glenn Van Dyke: Well, Saara and I both had bands before—You Can Be a Wesley was Saara’s band, and Beast Make Bomb was my band. We toured down to SXSW together and did a couple of other small New England tours. Our bands both broke up around the same time, and Saara moved to New York. One night we were hanging out and my practice space was a couple blocks away, and we were like, “Let’s go play!” And it worked. And we just kept doing it. It was fun. But Matt wasn’t in the band yet.

Matthew Gregory: Well yeah, I wasn’t even around during that time period. But after that we started playing together.

Saara Untracht-Oakner: We had a different drummer, Dylan, who was playing with us, and was the drummer in my old band. And then he moved out west, and Matt and I have been friends since high school. Our old bands used to play together. Every different project we’ve had, we’ve played shows together and stuff. So when we needed a drummer, we were talking and Matt came in.

MG: And that was what happened. And that was about a year ago!

How did the name BOYTOY come about?

SUO: As my band in Boston was breaking up I was in freak-out mode, and just wanted to start any new project and keep going and writing. I came up with a list of names and BOYTOY was one that I really liked. I secured the Bandcamp. I was like, “I’m not letting this name get away. I know it’s going to be some project!” And then I hit up Glenn. Originally we had an idea to do an all-girl punk band.

So this is your first album as BOYTOY?

SUO: Yeah, it’s an EP. A self-titled EP.

MG: Well, not with me. That was with the other drummer.

SUO: Yeah, but this is our first actual physical release.

MG: But nothing that we’ve all recorded together, actually.

GVD: Yeah, that’s true.

SUO: A lot of what we’ve been playing live is stuff from this new record that we’re writing now.

GVD: That we’ve all written.

When is that coming out?

GVD: Next summer!

SUO: Yeah. We’re writing for that now. And recording in February, is the plan.

What inspired this self-titled EP?

SUO: I mean it was like a lot of songs that I was writing at the time, or ideas of them as I was breaking up with the band, I guess. And then some of them were from when I was living with Glenn in her basement, and us doing guitar stuff together.

GVD: It was kind of an amalgamation of both of our bands joining together. And since then—that was kind of what that album was.

SUO: Like, leftover pieces of ideas that each of us had that we were messing with at the time of that change, which was a really big change. I mean, I moved back to New York from Boston.

GVD: And it was cool ‘cause it worked really well together, and it was before either of us was fully cohesive in songwriting. It was like these separate things that worked really well.

SUO: Still figuring each other out musically.

GVD: Before Matt joined, Saara and I wrote. And then Matt joined and now it’s like the three of us are kind of all involved in the writing process. But how it started, it was just Saara, Dylan our other drummer, and I.

SUO: Yeah. It’s cool now. The next record, too, doing a lot of songs, or writing, doing songs Matt has, and songs Glenn has, and all of us singing.

What is everyone’s favorite song off the record and why?

SUO: Oh, that’s good. I go between three. Can I do three? “Blazed,” “Shallow Town," and “TV Dreams” are my favorites. “Blazed,” I always forget how it sounds recorded. Chris McLaughlin, who made we made the recorded with, really just nailed it with that song with guitar tones and mixing. There’s a lot of little intricate things that he did while mixing that I forget are there that I don’t hear when we play live, you know? “Shallow Town” is just a fun, poppy—it feels good. And “TV Dreams,” I like the guitar stuff that goes on in that song.

GVD: Because she chose those three, I’m going to go ahead and say “Helluva Party.” I think the four songs that we still play live off that first EP are “Helluva Party,” “Shallow Town,” “Blazed,” and “TV Dreams.”

MG: Yeah, I think I like “TV Dreams.” I mean it’s fun to play live. But that’s also different too, playing them and listening to them. I just didn’t play on the recording that’s out.

How would you guys describe the EP in general?

GVD: I think there’s a taste of a lot of different things. I think it starts off really grungy and dark. People have said that it’s angsty—not angsty but someone’s asked us—

SUO: Someone asked us, “Is it about being an angsty teenager?” And I’m like, “No!”

GVD: I think that they are crafted songs. And a lot of it is—not to say that there’s not feeling in it, but compared to stuff that we’re playing now, it’s a vibe thing. These songs are more like, “This is your part. This is what it is.” And they’re fun to play. And those four are the most fun. It’s hard to describe your own music.

SUO: I think the first record had more of a nineties grungy feel.

GVD: Not purposefully.

So what are you guys writing now and does it sound different?

SUO: I think it’s more rock and roll—more kind of straightforward rock and roll—like fun, party type stuff. I think the first record is a little darker.

GVD: I think on the first record everyone brought a part to the table. Like everybody was like, “Here’s this. Oh, let me add this. Let me add this.” Whatever, like, it started from a different area, and I think this one feels more fun and cool.

SUO: Yeah, it’s more rock and roll.

How’d you guys get on Burger? Who approached who?

GVD: Saara went on tour with this band Habibi, with King Tuff.

SUO: No, no. It was the Burger Caravan of two years ago, I think. The Growlers and Cosmonauts and Gap Dream were on tour. We all got along and I was like, “Yeah, I have this band called BOYTOY,” and at that point we had been playing shows and stuff but we had just made our record.

GVD: It wasn’t out yet.

SUO: I think it was only mixed, and I sent it to them and they were like, “Yeah. We love it. We’re down.”

GVD: And tapes with them are so awesome because it’s a really quick turnover since they make them in-house. It’s kind of perfect.

SUO: Yeah. Great dudes. So many friends are on Burger Records. It feels like a cool family.

GVD: And they’re fun. They’re a lot of fun.

Closing words?

MG: Godspeed and hopefully that probe comes back from that comet that we just landed on. That’s it.

Photo by Imani Givertz

Premiering today via NYLON

Small Talks, aka Cayley Spivey, has come a long way since starting a band, then becoming the entire band herself and forging her own fan base from the ground up. On her recent album A Conversation Between Us, she began to unpack any lingering baggage with one particular song: "Teeth." Today, she premieres the accompanying music video exclusively via NYLON.

"'Teeth' is about my personal battle with letting go of the past," Spivey tells NYLON, admitting that it's easily her favorite song off of A Conversation Between Us.

Watch the video for "Teeth" below.

Small Talks - Teeth (Official Music Video) - YouTube

Photos by Joe Maher/Getty Images, Dimitrios Kambouris/Getty Images for TIME

Must have been pretty awkward

Taylor Swift and Sophie Turner were guests on the U.K.'s The Graham Norton Show together, which must have been awkward for Turner's husband, Joe Jonas, seeing as he also happens to be Swift's ex. I wonder if his name came up?

The interview doesn't come out until Friday night, but promotional photos show the two sharing a couch. Swift is making an appearance to perform her new single, "ME!" while Turner is promoting her new film, X- Men: Dark Phoenix. But it seems necessary for the two to be asked about Jonas.

Swift was just on the Ellen DeGeneres Show earlier this month, where she brought up the fact that she felt bad for putting Jonas "on blast" on DeGeneres' show back in 2008 by telling the audience that he broke up with her in a record-setting short phone call. But, according to Swift, she and Jonas are chill now, since it happened pretty long ago, which means she's probably already hung out with Turner and maybe even gossiped about him with her.

We can only hope that they get the chance to spill some tea on television.

Screenshot via YouTube, Photo Courtesy of HBO

"That's! His! Auntie!"

Leslie Jones has rewatched the Game of Thrones finale with a beer in hand, Seth Meyers at her side, and a full camera crew ready to take in all her glorious reactions. Spoilers ahead, but, if you haven't watched last week's episode already, that's kind of on you at this point.

When Jon Snow started to make out with Daenerys, also known as his aunt, only to stab her through the chest moments later, it was emotional whiplash for everyone watching. And, Jones' reactions—both from her first and second viewing—sum it all perfectly.

"That's! His! Auntie! [gagging noises]," Jones says before making an aside about calling the police if her uncle ever tried to do the same. But then the knife goes in, and Jones screams. "Did you see that?!" Jones asks, "Yeah bitch, that's a knife in you." Meyers points out the funniest part of all: "Why are you so upset about someone kissing their aunt but totally fine with someone killing their aunt?" Jones replies, "Because that bitch needed to go," and, well, same.

Other highlights from the comedians' rewatch include comparing Dany's victory speech to a bad improv gig, predicting that their dogs would have less of a reaction to their deaths than Drogon did to his mother's, and more.

Watch all of Jones' reactions from this Late Night clip below.

Game of Jones: Leslie Jones and Seth Watch Game of Thrones' Series Finale

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These lyrics are a lot

Robbie Tripp, aka Curvy Wife Guy, is back with a music video, titled "Chubby Sexy," starring his wife and a trio of models. In it, Tripp raps about his bold choice to find women with an average body size attractive.

The video begins with a series of statements laid over some pool water: "Curves are the new high fashion," "Chubby is the new sexy," "We Out Here." Tripp posits that these queens deserve an anthem, which they do. What they do not deserve is this Cursed Song. As he lists all the names he knows to call them by (thick, thicc, and BBW), one model (who I really, really hope was paid well) squirts some lotion down her cleavage, and Tripp begins dancing.

"My girl chubby sexy/ Call her bonita gordita," Tripp states in his chorus, before going on to compare "big booty meat" to the peach emoji. Another thing he mentions is that his wife can't find a belt that fits her waist, and that's why he calls her James and the Giant Peach. He then tries to dab. Here are some of the other Cursed highlights from his, uh, verses:

Got those Khaleesi curves/ Knows how to dragon slay
She like a dude that's woke/ We like a girl that's weighty
Some say a chubby girl that's risky/ But they ain't met a curvy girl that's frisky
Imma dunk that donk like I'm Andrew Wiggins.
Thick like an Amazon/ Built like Big Ben.

Tripp says one thing in the video that I couldn't agree more with: "She don't need a man." No, she does not. Please run. If you must, watch the entire video, below. Or send it to your nemesis!

Robbie Tripp - Chubby Sexy (Official Music Video)

Photo by Emma McIntyre / Getty Images.

See the promo here

It was bound to happen. The Kadashians and Jenners have committed themselves to letting the cameras roll on their lives, for better or for worse. So if you thought that the Jordyn Woods and Tristan Thompson cheating scandal was off limits, you thought wrong. The trailer for Sunday's episode of Keeping Up with the Kardashians was just released, and it involves the famous family working through the fallout of what happened when Woods went to a party at Thompson's house.

The teaser includes the infamous clip of Khloé Kardashian screaming "LIAAAARRRRRR." It's still not explicitly clear who prompted that strong response. She could be responding to Thompson, who clearly isn't always honest. Or she could be reacting to Woods account of the events on Red Table Talk. But the most revealing moment comes when we see Kylie Jenner—who was Woods' best friend before all of this happened—react for the first time.

In a heart-to-heart conversation, momager Kris Jenner says, "For you and Jordyn, it's like a divorce." Kylie only offers this in response: "She fucked up." Based on Woods' version of events—which I'm inclined to believeThompson is the one who fucked up. Still, I'm hoping for some kind of reconciliation between the two longtime friends. Perhaps we'll have to wait until next season for that.

Check out the promo video below.