10 Years Later, Emo Idols Taking Back Sunday Are Better Than Ever

All photographs by Gab Bonghi.

They’re back

The first time Caitlin Beahr met Taking Back Sunday, she needed a shot to calm her nerves. Now, standing in the lobby of the Trocadero Theatre in Philadelphia, she seems perfectly composed, retrieving a copy of their debut album Tell All Your Friends from a tote at her side. She emits a few nervous giggles as Adam Lazzara, John Nolan, Eddie Reyes, Shaun Cooper, and Mark O'Connell—the original lineup that formed in the early 2000s—shake her hand. Lazzara remembers her as she and other meet-and-greet winners pose for pictures.

It’s a quick process—no more than five minutes—and Taking Back Sunday bids the small group farewell. Outside the venue, Beahr catches her breath. She’s okay, “for the most part.” But even after spending the last 15 years listening to the group who’ve spawned hits like “Cute Without The ‘E’” and “MakeDamnSure,” she still gets emotional.

“I think it’s the feeling it creates,” Beahr says of meeting and seeing the band perform. “Knowing they’ve gone through some of the same stuff I’ve gone through. Everyone goes through that bad breakup. There’s something you can connect with.”

And over the course of seven albums, including last month’s Tidal Wave, Taking Back Sunday has offered music that helped define a movement. The fast-paced guitars, the call-and-response vocals, the song structures that allow for dramatic ebbs and flows of delicate to thundering drumming, the lyrics that display how high the stakes really were: “I thought of you and my worst brings out the best in you,” Lazzara sings in “A Decade Under The Influence,” a cut from 2004’s pivotal Where You Want to Be. It’s music that connects the listener to their feelings—of heartbreak, of anticipation, of disdain, of disappointment. And, currently, of nostalgia.

This kind of music is frequently categorized as emo.

“Almost any article I read about us, especially these days, they end up talking about that a lot more than any of us are comfortable with,” Adam Lazzara says. A light sprinkle of rain coats the city as he and his bandmates meander toward a Chinatown knick-knack shop. “For us to talk about that now, it’s like going through an old journal or high school yearbook.”

Because the truth of the matter is, Lazzara isn’t, nor are any of his bandmates, a teenager anymore. Tidal Wave is a perfectly frank and honest album that deals with the trials of homesickness as an adult and the changes that come with maturity. The songs that comprise their 2002 debut were written in basements and practice spaces on Long Island, New York, when the five-piece members were 17 and 18 years old. The people and emotions behind lyrics like “Why can't I feel anything from anyone other than you?” and “The truth is you could slit my throat and with my one last gasping breath I'd apologize for bleeding on your shirt” have faded into sepia-toned memories, yet are poignant enough to remain at the centerpiece of live performances. 

“It’s funny because there have been people after shows that’ll come up to you and say, ‘Why don’t you do this anymore?’” Lazzara says. “And I’ll be like, ‘How old are you? What were you doing when you were 16, 17? Well, that’s how old I was when I wrote the first record.’ Then I’ll ask them, ‘Are you that same person?’ Then you see that light bulb go off. I’m very much not, and I’m proud of that because I’d be in a lot of trouble if I was still that same kid.”

Lazzara discusses this divide without malice. It’s something that comes with the job. He’s levelheaded and surprisingly soft-spoken compared to his goliath stage presence. In the shop where we speak, a pair of foam nunchucks catches his eye, though his toy of choice would be a kid’s robot. Guitarists John Nolan and Eddie Reyes try on masks.

“It might be a little too Slipknot,” Nolan says as bassist Shaun Cooper snaps a picture.

The group’s chemistry runs deep. While Taking Back Sunday has featured lineup changes, this core five are the ones who released Tell All Your Friends and thus reformed in 2010 for their self-titled album in 2011, Happiness Is in 2014, and now Tidal Wave. They’ve been through a lot together: the tours, the matching panther tattoos, the concurrent growth as musicians and humans.

“I think the five of us have a certain energy and we were really able to tap into it,” Cooper says. “This, being the first time any lineup of this band has had three records together.”

And Tidal Wave is their best one yet. While rock ‘n’ roll in 2016 is consistently redefined, Taking Back Sunday brings it back to its basic elements with thundering drums, growling guitars, and intensity that almost bursts the seams of sonic listening spaces. Album opener, “Death Wolf,” explodes with the enthusiastically ominous warning in lyrics like “With our head in the clouds and our feet on the floor/ Had a little bit and now we want some more.” Later on the record, “Homecoming” details the sentimentality in putting down roots over an Americana-style rhythm section, piano, and acoustic guitar. Besides crafting an expansive collection that transcends and complements their past hits, Taking Back Sunday has written an album that incites the same emotional candor as their prior repertoire. When Lazzara sings “The devil's in the details/ And we don't go in there/ Make it sound so simple/ Make it sound so cheap/ You make it seem so easy, lying through your teeth,” on “We Don’t Go In There,” it could be a line from their earliest releases.

On their current tour, they’re playing the album in full. It seems like a heady effort to bring songs that are only a few weeks old—publically, that is—to audiences that have grown up putting Taking Back Sunday lyrics in their AIM and MySpace profiles. But they’re pulling it off. Lazzara steps away from the mic at the end of “Homecoming,” and the audience recites the song’s closing lines back to him. Following, his stage banter is less witty and rather overwhelmed. The date is September 28. The album hasn’t even been out for two weeks. It’s just a testament to fan dedication to both Taking Back Sunday and the alt-rock music released in the early 2000s; the music that soundtracked high school parties, drives with friends, breakups, and fights.

Nolan and Reyes stand at a counter in a Thai rolled ice cream shop watching as their evening snack is prepared on a cold stone right before their eyes. Drummer Mark O'Connell and Cooper check out a Facebook post showing the cover of Newsday on which their likenesses are printed.

“That’s my car,” O’Connell says with a smile. His glossy, red classic 1949 Ford sedan glimmers in the photograph.

This is the first cover he and Cooper have graced without the full band. It puts things in perspective a little bit, how far they’ve come.

“I remembered thinking [when we first started the band], I would be okay if I could play small clubs for the rest of my life, that would be fine,” he says. “I think that’s what I think about more: if I was 17-years-old and I knew I was going to be doing this at this age, I think I would’ve calmed down a lot more and been a lot more relaxed, knowing everything would be okay.”

Reyes gets his ice cream. It’s topped with fresh strawberries. Cooper declines the treat—he’s lactose intolerant. As Nolan waits for his cappuccino concoction to reach completion, a couple enters the store. As they order, the young man in the pair turns to Lazzara and shares that he is a fan, how seeing the band there is making him blush.

Almost fittingly, Fall Out Boy’s “Uma Thurman” plays over the shop’s speakers. Comparing the trajectories of the two bands—and the countless others—who emerged during the peak of emo would be for naught. The only similarities, really, were the genre they were lumped in though the boom, from a decade removed is still exciting to think about.

“There must have been something in the water,” Lazzara says. “We were really fortunate. I can’t explain it, and that’s probably a good thing because if I could, it means it could be calculated.”

To say that nostalgia is having a moment would be an understatement. Reunion and anniversary tours draw fans by the thousand, but Taking Back Sunday have never stopped. There’s nothing to remember or reminisce over, only years of music to celebrate.

“If we didn’t have, nightly, people responding to every generation of this band, maybe I would be more geared toward the nostalgia of the old stuff, but since we have such a good cross section of people responding to all the songs, it’s still new,” Cooper says. “We feel relevant more than we feel nostalgic.”

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This photo proves that they are the chillest onscreen family

Sophie Turner just posted a photo of herself, Maisie Williams, and Isaac Hempstead Wright—aka the Stark siblings—to her Instagram, showing just what the three used to get up to when the Game of Thrones cameras weren't rolling.

The photo shows Wright looking quite pleased with himself while sitting on a makeshift throne, wearing no pants. As he should be, seeing as (spoiler) his character, Bran, won the Iron Throne this weekend. Williams, meanwhile, is looking way too cool to be involved in the shenanigans, wearing a pair of black sunglasses and staring absently off-camera. As for Turner, she's looking away from her onscreen brother, too, nervously smoking a Juul.

"The pack survived," Turner captioned the photo.

This photo just goes to prove that the Stark siblings are the chillest onscreen family. (It also proves, yet again, that Turner's social media is an absolute delight.)

We're actually a little sad that this footage didn't make it into the final season, considering how many modern-day objects have been spotted in the show's last few episodes.

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Meet Ashley

Miley Cyrus shared the trailer for her forthcoming Black Mirror episode, and it's basically Hannah Montana set in a dystopian future. Cyrus is a pink wig-wearing pop star named Ashley who is rolling out an in-home virtual assistant, named Ashley Too, that looks like her and shares her voice. But, as is the case with every Black Mirror episode, this technology is not as cute and fun as it's advertised to be.

In the trailer, we get the idea that Ashley is all about wanting fans to "believe" in themselves—but underneath that pink wig, maybe she doesn't feel that same self-love. After Ashley Too introduces herself to fan and new owner Rachel, promising to be her friend, we get a look at Ashley's darker side. She's depressed and tired of the pop star life. A record label executive says to several people in the room, "She doesn't understand how fragile all this is." As they consider upping her dose of medication, Ashley's life is on a downward slope. "It's getting so hard to keep doing this," she voices over glimpses of a police car chase, performances, and breakdowns backstage.

But back to the technology: Does Ashley's breakdown also mean the breakdown of Ashley Too? Looks like it. We see Rachel's virtual assistant screaming, "Get that cable out of my ass! Holy shit! Pull it out," breathing a sigh of relief as soon as they pull it out. A title card then reveals the episode name, "Rachel, Jack, and Ashley Too."

Watch the full trailer and get a full view of Cyrus' cyborg-esque pop star look, below. Black Mirror returns to Netflix on June 5.


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Several actresses allegedly had "issues" with him

Lena Waithe's Showtime series, The Chi, just lost one of its main characters. Jason Mitchell, who was also set to appear in the Netflix film Desperados, has been dropped from both projects following multiple allegations of misconduct. He has also been dropped by his agent and manager.

Hollywood Reporter heard from a source "with knowledge" of The Chi, who says that Tiffany Boone, the actress who plays Mitchell's girlfriend on the show, is just one of several actresses who had "issues" with him. She eventually told producers at Fox21 that she could no longer work with him after filing several sexual harassment complaints. Apparently, her fiancé, Dear White People co-star Marque Richardson, would join her on set when she would shoot with Mitchell.

While news of Mitchell's alleged misconduct is just now beginning to surface, it looks like the ball started rolling on the fallout weeks ago. He was dropped from Desperados and replaced by Lamorne Morris before filming began. A source from the production team said that the producers received "specific information" that they reviewed and acted on quickly. Similarly, a source familiar with Mitchell's former agent, UTA, said the decision to drop him a few weeks ago was very quick following the allegations.

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Prior to the college admissions scandal, she said she doesn't "care about school"

Apparently, Olivia Jade wants to go back to school despite all those YouTube videos that suggested otherwise. Back in March, it was revealed that her mom, Fuller House actress Lori Loughlin, and dad, Mossimo Giannulli, had scammed Jade's way into the University of Southern California. Now, Loughlin faces jail time, and Jade lost out on plenty of lucrative ad partnerships.

According to Us Weekly, "Olivia Jade wants to go back to USC," per a source. "She didn't get officially kicked out and she is begging the school to let her back in." Another source though ousted Jade's real motivation to the publication. "She knows they won't let her in, so she's hoping this info gets out," they shared. "She wants to come out looking like she's changed, learned life lessons and is growing as a person, so she for sure wants people to think she is interested in her education."

Jade previously shared in a YouTube video she's in college for the "experience of like game days, partying" rather than the education. She also said, "I don't know how much of school I'm going to attend... I don't really care about school, as you guys all know." Though these statements were made prior to the scandal coming to light, her brand partnerships didn't come into question until her parents were indicted.

Right now, despite previous reports that Jade and her sister would both be dropping out of USC, Jade's enrollment has been placed on hold—meaning she cannot register for classes, or even withdraw from the school—until her parents' court case comes to a close. Then, the school will make its own decision as to how Jade will be affected. I think, either way, she should have to pay off a few of her classmates' loans for all the BS she pulled.

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He'd previously said he wanted to punch Jackson's 'Leaving Neverland' accusers in the face

Aaron Carter has been one of Michael Jackson's fiercest celebrity advocates in the aftermath of the Leaving Neverland documentary in which two men, Wade Robson and James Safechuck, alleged that Jackson sexually abused them when they were children. In a new clip from People, however, he seems to walk back his defense.

People reveals that Carter will be joining the upcoming season of reality TV show Marriage Boot Camp: Reality Stars Family Edition with his mother. It's noted that he will be revealing more thoughts regarding Jackson following the documentary and the sneak peek specifically sees him alluding to a negative experience with the singer.

Carter, who has previously said that Jackson was never inappropriate toward him, says that Jackson "was a really good guy," though he does note that this is only true "as far as I know." "He never did anything that was inappropriate," he continues before stopping himself, as though remembering something. "Except for one time. There was one thing that he did that was a little bit inappropriate."

Carter does not provide any more detail after this statement. He has previously said that he would stay at Jackson's Neverland estate and sleep in the same bed as the much older star when he was 15 years old, though he hasn't seemed to understand then just how creepy that is. He also said earlier this year, in a clip from TMZ, that he would be telling a story of something that happened between them in an upcoming book about his life.