Meet The Stars Of ‘Thelma,’ The Lesbian Horror Movie Everyone Is Talking About


The Norwegian movie premiered at TIFF this week

The first adolescent brush with desire—not a crush, but all-consuming true-blue wanting—is confusing and terrifying enough on its own. Count yourself lucky, then, that you didn’t have to simultaneously figure out why your presence seems to project a force field that kills birds.

Thelma, the title character of Norwegian filmmaker Joachim Trier’s genre-bending new feature, activates latent internal forces on two fronts as she falls for a beguiling young woman named Anja around the same time she manifests dark supernatural powers. It’s not the sort of premise a young actress gets to tackle every day, and so Trier’s countrywomen and leading ladies Eili Harboe and Kaya Wilkins leaped at the chance to take on these dense, exposed roles. They exude an intensity onscreen that makes their easygoing offscreen personae a touch surprising. But they’re not too dissimilar from any other 20-somethings: Wilkins has mastered the sarcastic-modest hair flip, Harboe snaps a quick pic for the 'gram before our interview gets rolling, and they both geeked out after meeting Idris Elba the night before. The afternoon before Thelma’s big premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival, the women were in high spirits as they discussed the process of befriending one another, the Scandinavian cinema canon, and their impeccably curated favorite movies.

When did you two meet for the first time?
Eili Harboe: When Kaya came in to audition for the part. I was immediately drawn to her. She was quirky, but super-talented, which I felt really suited the character. I was like, “She is Anja, obviously!” There were a variety of girls coming in that I played opposite against, and she just stood out to me. I had my fingers crossed the whole time. She came in for two more rounds, I think, and then Joachim was like, “What do you think?” I said, “Please, please, please!”
Kaya Wilkins: I didn’t think I’d get the role. It was the first time I had ever auditioned for a movie—I mostly make music. But I really liked Joachim as a director, so I wanted to give this a try and find out what auditioning would be like. I mean to say, I wasn’t all that invested until I met Eili. Suddenly, that was all I wanted to do. 

What were your first impressions of the script, and this concept?
EH: I actually got to read the script before I was cast, so I was super-grateful for that, because you get a fuller idea of your character. I fell in love with it, basically, when I read it. The character of Thelma is both vulnerable and strong, so she gets to be complex and challenging to portray. 

How did you get familiar with one another prior to the more romantic scenes?
KW: We had a very nice dialogue with Joachim beforehand and we had rehearsals, cold reads, and more involved rehearsals. By the time we started actually shooting, we were very comfortable with one another. It was a very respectful, closed set for the most intimate scenes. We had fun, relaxed vibes. We made the sound guy play “Kiss From A Rose” like a thousand times. I think Joachim was annoyed, but we loved it. Thank you, Seal!

Thelma has been commonly described as a horror film, but I think that doesn’t quite pin it. There’s lots more to it than that.
KW: It’s way more than a horror film because it’s got a dramatic element, about relationships to your family and sexuality. 
EH: It’s a coming-of-age story, too. It’s about inner conflict.

I get the feeling Americans don’t have that much awareness of Norwegian film, even in comparison to, say, French film. How would you characterize the film industry of Norway?
KW: My knowledge kind of stops with Joachim’s films, though I love them very much.
EH: I’ve been fortunate enough to have experiences with film in Norway, and the industry’s changing in both directions. We’re getting more bigger-budget movies and more artistic films as well. I hope we find a way to keep the raw, Scandinavian aesthetic alive while telling great stories. The style is very brooding, a sense of coldness and darkness, the weather is very present.
KW: They’re quite isolating, a lot of Scandinavian films. They’ll be about characters living in loneliness, keeping the focus on character-driven stories.

If this film ends up as successful as early reviews suggest, do you think you’d want to pursue English-language films?
EH: I’m open to anything, basically. I‘m very happy with where I am, but I’d also love to work on other great projects. I’m just hopeful.
KW: I don’t know! I’m just like, “Huh, I was in that movie! Let’s see if I’ll ever get in another movie ever again!” I can’t imagine an experience as amazing as this one.

Was it difficult to balance the heart of the romance with the creepier supernatural elements, in your performances?
EH: You need to be vulnerable to portray a person suppressing emotions, and in my mind, Thelma’s supernatural abilities and her feelings for Anja are both part of one suppression. They rage within her in a similar way, and that creates chaos in the film. 

Now for every young actor’s least favorite question. What films do you hold closest?
EH: I love the HBO documentary Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills, the whole trilogy. And of course, Mulholland Dr. by David Lynch.
KW: I do a lot of research for my music videos just by watching films, and the last one I remember really, really liking was The Double Life of Veronique

Photo by Imani Givertz

Premiering today via NYLON

Small Talks, aka Cayley Spivey, has come a long way since starting a band, then becoming the entire band herself and forging her own fan base from the ground up. On her recent album A Conversation Between Us, she began to unpack any lingering baggage with one particular song: "Teeth." Today, she premieres the accompanying music video exclusively via NYLON.

"'Teeth' is about my personal battle with letting go of the past," Spivey tells NYLON, admitting that it's easily her favorite song off of A Conversation Between Us.

Watch the video for "Teeth" below.

Small Talks - Teeth (Official Music Video) - YouTube

Photos by Joe Maher/Getty Images, Dimitrios Kambouris/Getty Images for TIME

Must have been pretty awkward

Taylor Swift and Sophie Turner were guests on the U.K.'s The Graham Norton Show together, which must have been awkward for Turner's husband, Joe Jonas, seeing as he also happens to be Swift's ex. I wonder if his name came up?

The interview doesn't come out until Friday night, but promotional photos show the two sharing a couch. Swift is making an appearance to perform her new single, "ME!" while Turner is promoting her new film, X- Men: Dark Phoenix. But it seems necessary for the two to be asked about Jonas.

Swift was just on the Ellen DeGeneres Show earlier this month, where she brought up the fact that she felt bad for putting Jonas "on blast" on DeGeneres' show back in 2008 by telling the audience that he broke up with her in a record-setting short phone call. But, according to Swift, she and Jonas are chill now, since it happened pretty long ago, which means she's probably already hung out with Turner and maybe even gossiped about him with her.

We can only hope that they get the chance to spill some tea on television.

Screenshot via YouTube, Photo Courtesy of HBO

"That's! His! Auntie!"

Leslie Jones has rewatched the Game of Thrones finale with a beer in hand, Seth Meyers at her side, and a full camera crew ready to take in all her glorious reactions. Spoilers ahead, but, if you haven't watched last week's episode already, that's kind of on you at this point.

When Jon Snow started to make out with Daenerys, also known as his aunt, only to stab her through the chest moments later, it was emotional whiplash for everyone watching. And, Jones' reactions—both from her first and second viewing—sum it all perfectly.

"That's! His! Auntie! [gagging noises]," Jones says before making an aside about calling the police if her uncle ever tried to do the same. But then the knife goes in, and Jones screams. "Did you see that?!" Jones asks, "Yeah bitch, that's a knife in you." Meyers points out the funniest part of all: "Why are you so upset about someone kissing their aunt but totally fine with someone killing their aunt?" Jones replies, "Because that bitch needed to go," and, well, same.

Other highlights from the comedians' rewatch include comparing Dany's victory speech to a bad improv gig, predicting that their dogs would have less of a reaction to their deaths than Drogon did to his mother's, and more.

Watch all of Jones' reactions from this Late Night clip below.

Game of Jones: Leslie Jones and Seth Watch Game of Thrones' Series Finale

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These lyrics are a lot

Robbie Tripp, aka Curvy Wife Guy, is back with a music video, titled "Chubby Sexy," starring his wife and a trio of models. In it, Tripp raps about his bold choice to find women with an average body size attractive.

The video begins with a series of statements laid over some pool water: "Curves are the new high fashion," "Chubby is the new sexy," "We Out Here." Tripp posits that these queens deserve an anthem, which they do. What they do not deserve is this Cursed Song. As he lists all the names he knows to call them by (thick, thicc, and BBW), one model (who I really, really hope was paid well) squirts some lotion down her cleavage, and Tripp begins dancing.

"My girl chubby sexy/ Call her bonita gordita," Tripp states in his chorus, before going on to compare "big booty meat" to the peach emoji. Another thing he mentions is that his wife can't find a belt that fits her waist, and that's why he calls her James and the Giant Peach. He then tries to dab. Here are some of the other Cursed highlights from his, uh, verses:

Got those Khaleesi curves/ Knows how to dragon slay
She like a dude that's woke/ We like a girl that's weighty
Some say a chubby girl that's risky/ But they ain't met a curvy girl that's frisky
Imma dunk that donk like I'm Andrew Wiggins.
Thick like an Amazon/ Built like Big Ben.

Tripp says one thing in the video that I couldn't agree more with: "She don't need a man." No, she does not. Please run. If you must, watch the entire video, below. Or send it to your nemesis!

Robbie Tripp - Chubby Sexy (Official Music Video)

Photo by Emma McIntyre / Getty Images.

See the promo here

It was bound to happen. The Kadashians and Jenners have committed themselves to letting the cameras roll on their lives, for better or for worse. So if you thought that the Jordyn Woods and Tristan Thompson cheating scandal was off limits, you thought wrong. The trailer for Sunday's episode of Keeping Up with the Kardashians was just released, and it involves the famous family working through the fallout of what happened when Woods went to a party at Thompson's house.

The teaser includes the infamous clip of Khloé Kardashian screaming "LIAAAARRRRRR." It's still not explicitly clear who prompted that strong response. She could be responding to Thompson, who clearly isn't always honest. Or she could be reacting to Woods account of the events on Red Table Talk. But the most revealing moment comes when we see Kylie Jenner—who was Woods' best friend before all of this happened—react for the first time.

In a heart-to-heart conversation, momager Kris Jenner says, "For you and Jordyn, it's like a divorce." Kylie only offers this in response: "She fucked up." Based on Woods' version of events—which I'm inclined to believeThompson is the one who fucked up. Still, I'm hoping for some kind of reconciliation between the two longtime friends. Perhaps we'll have to wait until next season for that.

Check out the promo video below.