The Death Of Porn Star August Ames Is A Story Without Heroes Or Villains

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Talking with Jon Ronson and Lina Misitzis about The Last Days of August

One of the stranger things about living in the age of social media has nothing to with living at all; one of the stranger things about living in the age of social media is dying in the age of social media. Whereas, in the past, a person's last words might be heard only by those closest to them, or maybe by nobody at all, now, a person's last words—or, at least, their last posted words—can be read by everyone who follows them, and stay suspended in the amber of the internet forever, there for people to like and share, reply to and screenshot.

The last words of adult film star August Ames—at least, the last words of hers on social media—were: "fuck y'all."

Ames wrote those words on the night of December 4th; she was found, dead by suicide, the next day. And, similarly to the way in which the last words of famous people from Marie Antoinette to Winston Churchill have been analyzed again and again since their deaths, so, too, were Ames's—along with the circumstances of her death.

The lead-up to that last tweet was a day of Twitter-shaming, brought on by an allegedly homophobic tweet by Ames, in which she said she'd walked off a film set after finding out that her male partner for the day had also acted in gay porn. Ames indicated that she'd refused to have sex with him for her own safety, which led many people to accuse her of participating in the stigmatization of gay men as being more prone to having sexually transmitted diseases. Though Ames insisted she wasn't homophobic, the Twitter hysteria accelerated, and she appeared to log off after tweeting, "fuck y'all."

In the days that followed her suicide, Ames's husband, Kevin Moore, who also works in the porn industry, doubled-down on the rhetoric that social media bullying was what led to Ames' death. But there were, particularly within the industry, dissenters to this narrative, and many who questioned its seeming simplicity. Was this really just a case of social media shaming triggering a dire response? Was her husband—20 years older than Ames, and rumored to be very controlling—hiding something? Had something negative happened to August when she was filming one day? Or was there something else going on altogether?

These are the questions that launch The Last Days of August, a long-form podcast on Audible (rather than being broken up into episodes, there are chapters; the whole listening experience is under four hours), which is hosted by Jon Ronson and produced by Lina Misitzis. As Ronson—who has written extensively about social media bullying, notably with his book So You've Been Publicly Shamed—recently told me: "There was something about August's story that made me want to do it from the beginning, when I thought this was a shaming story."

But he and Misitzis had another connection to Ames' story, the two last worked together on another Audible podcast, The Butterfly Effect, which traced the effects free online porn has had on the adult film industry. This experience allowed Ronson and Misitzis access to the world of August Ames and her peers, a place understandably populated by those who are highly skeptical of the kind of journalists whose interests lie mainly in the lurid and sensational. Ronson said, "I couldn't ignore the fact that I was the only person who had spent a lot of time in the porn world but also have done a lot of work with public shaming. I felt like I was too close to it to not do it."

What Ronson and Misitzis soon uncovered was that this wasn't a story just about public shaming—but that there also wasn't the kind of cinematic twist that so many people expect from podcasts; there was no uncovered murder here. Instead, what they uncovered was tragic in its mundanity, and its relatability; Ames' story was one that involved mental health issues, a childhood experience with sexual abuse, a confrontation with a coworker in which she felt compromised. It's a story that has no neat ending, no heroes or villains, and is all the more important, then, as a reminder of the myriad burdens so many people carry around within themselves, until they just can't anymore.

Below, I speak with Ronson and Misitzis about the podcast, what their experience was in telling it, and how it turned out to have its very own Me Too moment.

The interesting thing about public-shaming in the social media sphere is that, often, people participate in that sort of pile-on because they don't necessarily think of someone on Twitter as a real person—to them, it's just an avatar. I think that's really analogous to how a lot of people view sex workers, and specifically people in the porn industry. They know that they're human, but they don't always see them that way, and so they can abandon codes of civility more easily.
Lina Misitzis: I think that there's this etiquette in place around how we treat various people… and it seems like sex workers are excluded from that etiquette, and it's really heartbreaking.

Which is why I think The Last Days of August feels so different, because it's a nuanced and respectful portrait of a sex worker, but it doesn't hold back on any of the difficult parts of her life or industry, while never treating her like anything other than the complicated person she is. But that kind of nuance is almost always missing in social media, as it is in our perceptions of public figures.
Jon Ronson: And most people, most humans, have nuance, [but] social media is basically a platform for... constantly pulling somebody out to make them a hero or a villain. And there are magnificent heroes and villains... but most people aren't. Most people are a mix, most of them are in the middle. And if you're in the middle, well, everybody deserves a nuanced portrait. And yet, for some reason, social media views nuance as weakness. And I know that sounds sort of grim, but it's really true. If, on Twitter, something happens and somebody posts something that goes viral, if you say, "Wait, can we wait until more facts come in so we can make a decision based on all the facts?" you'll get a reply like, "We don't have to wait, we know what this person is like." It's horrible.

A lot of what you're dealing with here is the ethics of how to treat other people, and that also works within the construct of how you produced and put together this narrative. One thing I liked that you did was avoid making this into some sort of salacious cliffhanger; you let the listeners know pretty quickly that this was not a murder story. Why did you make that narrative choice?
LM: I'm gonna answer, in part, by citing you, Jon. Jon and I knew that this was a compelling story that deserved to be told slowly. It was basically a conversation that we had from the start. Jon would wake up at, like, two in the morning, and I would wake up a few hours later, and Jon would have emailed me in the middle of the night basically to say we have to make sure we don't falsely accuse anyone of murder who isn't a murderer.

JR: I was so worried about it because it was all on me, and probably one of the biggest responsibilities of my life to get it right. And while the story is August's—we have to tell her story—afterward, our story is everybody else's, and that's most definitely Kevin. So, ethically, internally, nothing gets harder than that.

LM: In this project, and also in the last thing we did together, The Butterfly Effect, we've ended up now doing these two stories where there aren't really any bad guys. There are certainly people with flaws, but there really isn't an antagonist, and so our duty in representing all of these stories is really finding out the motivations of every person. And an example of that having really worked is, just the other day, I got a text message from someone in the porn industry. He's not in the series, but had just heard the show and wanted me to know that he was still so angry with how nice we were being. And I didn't have to do this, but I wrote back and I said, "At the end of this experience, I stand by the reporting, and I'm not an apologist for any specific person in the series, but I also don't feel like any specific person in the series has done anything that is deserving of the anger that you're throwing at me right now." And I really stand by that. And I think it's really treating the stories as being comprised of humans that results in that outcome.

JR: Yeah, absolutely. Humans are a mess. I always say, "I'm a messy human," we all are. We all accumulate baggage, we all make mistakes, we're all a bit of a mess. We do smart things, we do stupid things. And I hope more than anything that people get that from this show. Except for the stories that August told about her childhood [abuse], this show isn't about a villain. It's about complicated, messy humans, which we all are. And I really hope people leave this story with compassion for Kevin, even if it'll be hard. And I personally feel a lot of compassion for Kevin.

What's so interesting to me is that so many people can say what you just said, and acknowledge that life is messy and that there are no easy answers, there are no good or bad guys. And yet, there are certain subjects that automatically bring out the most reductive type of moralizing in us. And those subjects usually are very closely intertwined with feelings of shame. And sex, and therefore sex workers, definitely bring that out in many people. But so do other issues that you deal with on the show, like sexual assault, mental health, issues of consent and what that means in the sex work industry. I think all those are things that many people are really ashamed to talk about from a personal level, so that's one of the things that I thought was most powerful in this narrative, how you dealt with all of those things with compassion and destigmatized them.
JR: A lot of it has to do with the fact that Lina is so tireless and honest and good. And I'm good at telling stories in nuanced ways. We both are good at different things, so we don't fuck it up. So we get it completely right.

LM: It's fascinating, right? It's fascinating to kind of give space for everyone's story and normalize things that should be. Like I think it's very obvious that mental health issues should be normalized, it's not that hard to say that anymore. And still, it took a pretty noticeable toll on both of us.

JR: I actually think if people thought we were too hard on Kevin or too hard on that person, it would've been awful. Because it's like a tightrope walk. I'm just so pleased, I feel relieved that people are taking this story and are being positive about this story.

Another thing that really came across was how seriously you took the responsibility of presenting this woman who died in a tragic way at such a young age and not exploiting it, not making it salacious.
JR: We both kind of figured out our sole responsibility is to tell her story accurately, and we can never forget that.

LM: I actually remember one of the first conversations with Jon that felt so important to me was the decision to make August's voice the first to hear in the series, even though we didn't know her [and hadn't talked to her].

JR: You met her briefly.

LM: Well, I had met her on a porn set, and she smiled and said hi. But I didn't know her.

Was there anything about the final result that really stayed with both of you as something that you were particularly proud of being able to put out there in the world?
LM: I'm really pleased—well, pleased is a silly word—but I'm very proud to have managed to tell a story that kind of falls into the category of a Me Too story without it being just about someone doing something wrong. There are so many Me Too stories that really are about a villain or an aggressor or a bad guy... and this was one without a villain, but it was still a Me Too story. And it was really important to me —and I won't speak for Jon but I'll be surprised if he doesn't agree—that it was told in the most nuanced way as possible, but without detracting from the most important aspect, which was that August walked away from set that day feeling very unhappy.

JR: Yeah, I completely agree... I'm more proud of that than anything else in the show.

You can download The Last Days of August on Audible, here.

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Small Talks, aka Cayley Spivey, has come a long way since starting a band, then becoming the entire band herself and forging her own fan base from the ground up. On her recent album A Conversation Between Us, she began to unpack any lingering baggage with one particular song: "Teeth." Today, she premieres the accompanying music video exclusively via NYLON.

"'Teeth' is about my personal battle with letting go of the past," Spivey tells NYLON, admitting that it's easily her favorite song off of A Conversation Between Us.

Watch the video for "Teeth" below.

Small Talks - Teeth (Official Music Video) - YouTube

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Must have been pretty awkward

Taylor Swift and Sophie Turner were guests on the U.K.'s The Graham Norton Show together, which must have been awkward for Turner's husband, Joe Jonas, seeing as he also happens to be Swift's ex. I wonder if his name came up?

The interview doesn't come out until Friday night, but promotional photos show the two sharing a couch. Swift is making an appearance to perform her new single, "ME!" while Turner is promoting her new film, X- Men: Dark Phoenix. But it seems necessary for the two to be asked about Jonas.

Swift was just on the Ellen DeGeneres Show earlier this month, where she brought up the fact that she felt bad for putting Jonas "on blast" on DeGeneres' show back in 2008 by telling the audience that he broke up with her in a record-setting short phone call. But, according to Swift, she and Jonas are chill now, since it happened pretty long ago, which means she's probably already hung out with Turner and maybe even gossiped about him with her.

We can only hope that they get the chance to spill some tea on television.

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"That's! His! Auntie!"

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When Jon Snow started to make out with Daenerys, also known as his aunt, only to stab her through the chest moments later, it was emotional whiplash for everyone watching. And, Jones' reactions—both from her first and second viewing—sum it all perfectly.

"That's! His! Auntie! [gagging noises]," Jones says before making an aside about calling the police if her uncle ever tried to do the same. But then the knife goes in, and Jones screams. "Did you see that?!" Jones asks, "Yeah bitch, that's a knife in you." Meyers points out the funniest part of all: "Why are you so upset about someone kissing their aunt but totally fine with someone killing their aunt?" Jones replies, "Because that bitch needed to go," and, well, same.

Other highlights from the comedians' rewatch include comparing Dany's victory speech to a bad improv gig, predicting that their dogs would have less of a reaction to their deaths than Drogon did to his mother's, and more.

Watch all of Jones' reactions from this Late Night clip below.

Game of Jones: Leslie Jones and Seth Watch Game of Thrones' Series Finale

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These lyrics are a lot

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Got those Khaleesi curves/ Knows how to dragon slay
She like a dude that's woke/ We like a girl that's weighty
Some say a chubby girl that's risky/ But they ain't met a curvy girl that's frisky
Imma dunk that donk like I'm Andrew Wiggins.
Thick like an Amazon/ Built like Big Ben.

Tripp says one thing in the video that I couldn't agree more with: "She don't need a man." No, she does not. Please run. If you must, watch the entire video, below. Or send it to your nemesis!

Robbie Tripp - Chubby Sexy (Official Music Video)

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The teaser includes the infamous clip of Khloé Kardashian screaming "LIAAAARRRRRR." It's still not explicitly clear who prompted that strong response. She could be responding to Thompson, who clearly isn't always honest. Or she could be reacting to Woods account of the events on Red Table Talk. But the most revealing moment comes when we see Kylie Jenner—who was Woods' best friend before all of this happened—react for the first time.

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Check out the promo video below.